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Size 12's - Hawk's Eyrie
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Size 12's
I can finally get my ass (barely) into size 12's. While loosing weight, I go by the adage of "Better to have tight pants than loose pants. Tight pants make me want to not eat too much. Loose pants make me not worry."

The great thing about being in size 12's again is that the designers stop assuming I have tree trunk legs. My legs are highly muscled saplings. While wearing Sizes 14+, I have fabric just flying around my legs. Now, the amount of fabric is properly proportional to my legs. Ahhh, that's nice.

But here's some other oddities I don't get:

A) The same Gloria Vanderbilt trousers - Size 12 & Size 14. The Size 14's have properly sized (aka usable) pockets. The Size 12's are so small, there's no way I can get my wallet, keys, and phone into them without something constantly falling out. Really?

B) Lee's short pants. I tried on a Size 12 Short for one of their trousers. It fit fine around my waist. And yet - the pants were about 2 inches too long on me. Really? I'm 5'3". If they can't manage to make "short" pants that aren't longer than me, I have no idea what size demographic they are going for. 'Cause it sure isn't actual short people.

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neonhummingbird From: neonhummingbird Date: October 21st, 2010 05:34 pm (UTC) (Permanent Entry Link)
I've noticed the length thing with pants a lot (I'm 5'7", but most of my height is in my torso -- short arms and legs). I believe part of the thinking is that it's easy to hem pants, but you can't add more fabric on. So a lot of manufacturers make the legs really long, and then use the same cut with smaller proportions even for the Short and Petite labels.

(And then there are the manufacturers who are just totally out of touch with actual bodies and cut everything for skinny super-tall models, but that's another rant altogether.)
From: mikeda Date: October 21st, 2010 10:42 pm (UTC) (Permanent Entry Link)
make the legs really long

That may explain something, assuming that manufacturers of men's trousers are doing the same sort of thing.

I never bother checking the length when buying trousers. I know it's going to need to be shortened because I've never seen trousers that fit my waist that don't need to be shortened.
some_other_dave From: some_other_dave Date: October 22nd, 2010 02:39 pm (UTC) (Permanent Entry Link)
I have the opposite experience. Since most of the mens pants I have seen while shopping include a leg-length measurement (e.g, 38 X 32), I just get the ones with the same number as jeans or slacks that fit me (32 in my case) and all is good.

I've gone through four different waist sizes so far, but the 32 leg has consistently fit me.
daroos From: daroos Date: October 21st, 2010 09:08 pm (UTC) (Permanent Entry Link)
I've found that even in 14's I'm hard pressed to fit my legs, and at times get my calves (?) stuck in them while the waist flops about, next to useless. I think pants are the devil's work, and we should wear giant soft cotton sacks. It would simplify my wardrobe immensely. (However REI pants are some of the few which actually make thighs designed for people who run about and hike or dance or whatever, and for that they get kudos)
merhawk From: merhawk Date: October 21st, 2010 09:11 pm (UTC) (Permanent Entry Link)
I know what you mean about problems sizing pants. I hate, hate, HATE buying clothing parts for my lower body more than I do my upper, which is weird. I mean, I have an XL chest with a M body type up there.

I am lucky that when I get in better shape, my legs just tighten up. I don't get the thighs you talk about, but I know of what you mean.

This is why I almost always buy men's shorts, and have been known to eye the men's pants on occassion
daroos From: daroos Date: October 21st, 2010 09:13 pm (UTC) (Permanent Entry Link)
I know some dancer guys who buy womens pants, so I suppose it's fair play. They love the fabrics, I think, and the flow of good ladies pants. :P They were amusingly horrified at the lack of pockets, though ("Where do women keep their things? No wonder they have giant purses!")
kateshort From: kateshort Date: October 27th, 2010 03:54 am (UTC) (Permanent Entry Link)
Silly hawk!

You need to get the PETITE short ones. There's petite regular, there's regular short, and then there's petite short.

This is why I shop at Sears. It's one of the few places where I can actually get short, petite, and petite short lengths to choose from...
merhawk From: merhawk Date: October 27th, 2010 02:43 pm (UTC) (Permanent Entry Link)
The Petite short ones rub in delicate places. They shorten the torso part too much for me.
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