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Objectification: what if the world were different for a day?

It's a must read, IMNAAHO.

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rimrunner From: rimrunner Date: March 9th, 2010 03:38 am (UTC) (Permanent Entry Link)
I forget which company it is, but there's one clothing company whose ads (with male models) are basically as described in that piece.

I've been thinking a lot lately about beauty, femininity, and ideals thereof. About all I've concluded is that I enjoy life a lot more if I avoid television, billboards, and the magazine racks in the supermarket checkout line.
From: chrisrw109 Date: March 9th, 2010 04:04 am (UTC) (Permanent Entry Link)


It was a very well written piece. I've always had a mental disconnect with the degree to which we objectify (by an overwhelming majority women) while socially judging other cultures.

I just never have quite understood how things are so skewed that 'object of fantasy' is a valid career path, not a side-effect of being at some other peak of performance or what have you. While there are certainly some stand-outs who've flipped the dynamic to take / exercise some form of control, I just find the aspiration to be the one the 16 year-old boys dream of taking to be deeply broken.

But then, I was also one of those 16 year old boys so it's not like I can throw alot of stones.
mjschaef From: mjschaef Date: March 9th, 2010 04:27 am (UTC) (Permanent Entry Link)
Huh... look at that. Someone wrote a story about the gay (male) community.

That Green Lantern drawing is Haaaawt.

(I may have missed the point) :-)
slothman From: slothman Date: March 9th, 2010 08:02 am (UTC) (Permanent Entry Link)
Yeah, that’s about right for turning the situation around. There’s definitely pressure on guys too— I was somewhat bemused when I started at UCSB in 1989 and saw prominent advertisements for chest and back waxing for men (as a moderately hirsute individual, I would be in trouble if that were necessary to attract a mate), and it seems like just about every guy on television these days who’s allowed to take his shirt off looks like a preadolescent with well-defined muscles— but that’s minor compared to the pressure placed on women on every magazine rack at the supermarket. I think we need more attention called to the surveys that show that huge majorities of men actually like women with curves (the anthropologists find a preference for a 4:3 or 10:7 ratio of hips to waist is pretty much universal among all heterosexual human males), and there was a recent result that apparently a bit of fur isn’t so bad for guys either.

And in regards to your comment on there— your wit is certainly an excellent asset, but you are also quite nice to look at.
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slothman From: slothman Date: March 9th, 2010 06:46 pm (UTC) (Permanent Entry Link)
Everyone gets judged by their appearance; that’s fundamental to mating selection. There’s no avoiding the basic drive to find a mate who is expressing healthy genes, and one of the ways that manifests is in the symmetry and proportion we describe as attractive. What we can avoid is creating impossible expectations and crushing societal pressures, and I think an effective way to do that is by acknowledging the wide variety of people that really are attractive.
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