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I'm getting a sinking feeling that there's a good likelihood of a McCain/Huckabee ticket for the Republicans. Unless one of the Democrats turns out to be a baby-killing Nazi, my decision for who to vote for in November will be easy.

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neonhummingbird From: neonhummingbird Date: February 6th, 2008 05:38 pm (UTC) (Permanent Entry Link)
I could live with McCain, if I had to, but the idea of having Huckabee that close to the Oval Office is... deeply, deeply disturbing. Maybe it'll go McCain/Romney (also disturbing, but mostly sane. Which is more than you can say about Huckabee).
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neonhummingbird From: neonhummingbird Date: February 6th, 2008 05:56 pm (UTC) (Permanent Entry Link)
Well, south and southwest are emphatically not the same -- entirely different economic issues, although the bedrock conservatism is similar. Otherwise, I agree with much of that. Huckabee brings the evangelical vote, but he scares off a lot of the undecided they want to steal from the Democrats, and the less conservative Republicans they want to hang onto. Not a good call from where I'm standing.

On the other hand, I've given up trying to predict what any political party will do, which means that Huckabee still scares me a lot.
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merhawk From: merhawk Date: February 6th, 2008 06:19 pm (UTC) (Permanent Entry Link)
To reiterate what others have said:

It's not the South, it's the evangelical base which is all over the country. There is a - valid - concern that if no one energizes that base a good portion of the Republican party will stay at home if McCain is the candidate. Hence my concern that they will use the VP slot to appeal to that base.

However, they don't need to pick Huckabee if the Democrats pick Clinton. Another Clinton presidency will motivate the evangelicals almost as much as an evangelical candidate from what I've seen & heard.
From: puppybrother Date: February 11th, 2008 08:58 pm (UTC) (Permanent Entry Link)
If Clinton gets the nomination, it's McCain's to lose. I don't think he can beat Obama's glittering generalities, though.
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merhawk From: merhawk Date: February 6th, 2008 06:16 pm (UTC) (Permanent Entry Link)
None would make it easy. However, if McCain had a SANE running mate, I would be willing to consider him. Especially if the alternative is another 8 years of Clinton.
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merhawk From: merhawk Date: February 6th, 2008 06:24 pm (UTC) (Permanent Entry Link)
I refuse to support any more dynasty politics, if I have even a semi-reasonable choice. That's not fair to Clinton, but she's unfortunately got a lot of baggage that comes with her. I'm sick to death of the divisive politics in this country, and another 8 years of Clinton will NOT make that go away. Any other candidate has a chance; however, I don't expect the Republican machine to make anything easy for her. I want this country to work together, not make it an "Us vs Them" on everything.
skwidly From: skwidly Date: February 6th, 2008 06:36 pm (UTC) (Permanent Entry Link)
There's one issue that would keep me from voting for a Republican this time around regardless of how interesting they were or who they were running against, and that's Supreme Court nominees.

The current court is already tragically imbalanced in (to my sensibilities) the wrong direction. Odds are we'll need a new Justice or two this term. A Republican in office means we're well and truly fucked.
lightinchains From: lightinchains Date: February 7th, 2008 02:25 am (UTC) (Permanent Entry Link)
You can have the raging horn for comity and bipartisanship as much as you like, it's never going to happen. Not voting for Clinton for that reason is just dumb - do you imagine that anyone else will bring Democrat and Republican together in sweet harmony?
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merhawk From: merhawk Date: February 6th, 2008 06:21 pm (UTC) (Permanent Entry Link)
And I completely understand that, and that is one of the very definite minuses against him. However, I'm also trying to decide about how would be best for our world image, our (seemingly) upcoming economic recession, and how would actually work to pull the country together rather than be a divider like W.

Which means McCain MIGHT work. The McCain of 2000 would be a much better choice to me than this current one, however.
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hex_16 From: hex_16 Date: February 6th, 2008 07:17 pm (UTC) (Permanent Entry Link)
Don't you mean four years of Clinton? :P
merhawk From: merhawk Date: February 7th, 2008 03:30 pm (UTC) (Permanent Entry Link)
No.
kitarra From: kitarra Date: February 6th, 2008 06:06 pm (UTC) (Permanent Entry Link)
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGAAAA!AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!

I loath the idea of McCain anyway, Janis faced republican party puppet that he is.

But the idea of McCain Huckabee or Romney is enough to make me vote for anyone who has a snowball's chance in hell.
jsbowden From: jsbowden Date: February 6th, 2008 06:15 pm (UTC) (Permanent Entry Link)
So you wouldn't vote for Kate if she ran?
merhawk From: merhawk Date: February 6th, 2008 06:21 pm (UTC) (Permanent Entry Link)
If Kate were truly a baby-killing Nazi, I'm sure she'd understand.
annewashere From: annewashere Date: February 6th, 2008 07:34 pm (UTC) (Permanent Entry Link)
I think they'd be stupid to do that. McCain needs independents more than he needs the evangelicals to beat the Democratic candidate, and the gains from the evangelicals wouldn't offset the scaring-off of the independents that Huckabee would result in. The evangelicals tipped the election in 2004 because more independents stayed home, which they won't do this time. (Please god please let that be a true conjecture...)

Not that it matters to me, because I wouldn't consider putting a Republican in a position to guide the Supreme Court for the next little bit.
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annewashere From: annewashere Date: February 6th, 2008 07:43 pm (UTC) (Permanent Entry Link)
Yes, with the independents he has a shot at it (unfortunately, in my opinion). But don't you think that Huckabee would scare away a too-large percentage of those independents to pick him?

Maybe that is wishful thinking on my part.
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annewashere From: annewashere Date: February 6th, 2008 08:24 pm (UTC) (Permanent Entry Link)
I did see him speak last night, and got irrationally angry at him for his fundie code phrases. Bleh.
merhawk From: merhawk Date: February 6th, 2008 08:39 pm (UTC) (Permanent Entry Link)
So what are the fundie code phrases?
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From: queenofwakanda Date: February 8th, 2008 12:18 am (UTC) (Permanent Entry Link)
27 talons or Rake your talons?